That's also in the PPRA. Considering that each of our current parties has openly admitted at one time or another that they're not ideologically based, an argument could be made that we don't even have a single legitimate party.1) A "political party" is defined "as an organisation made up of citizens with similar political ideologies, whose members work together to achieve their political goals.
Incidentally, as we are the "Union of Europeia", not the "Europeia Party" or something similar, if we moved out of the Political Party area and into somewhere more social, yet continued operation, this would probably escape your complaints anyway. Seeing as a political party is defined as: "as an organisation made up of citizens with similar political ideologies, whose members work together to achieve their political goals." if we do not fulfil that, surely we also are not bound by the requirements to post a manifesto?
EDIT: Yes! Perfect! Just be a social organization! Meaning, not in the political party section of the forum. My only issue is masquerading as something you're not.
You realize that the NCP existed over a year before Falconias joined, and continues to exist four months after his departure, yeah?An ideology isn't one person or one candidate, and we've seen that cults of personality (a la Falconias) aren't durable when that person leaves. If they truly had a thick ideology and shared vision for the region, they'd hold together.
"Exist" is a relative term.You realize that the NCP existed over a year before Falconias joined, and continues to exist four months after his departure, yeah?An ideology isn't one person or one candidate, and we've seen that cults of personality (a la Falconias) aren't durable when that person leaves. If they truly had a thick ideology and shared vision for the region, they'd hold together.
Yep, you're absolutely right, in Europeian political parties, power is the first priority, not any type of plan for the region. Even the Democrats have a general ideology of liberalism, and a general plan for the citizenry. Yes, there are those who don't adhere to the liberal ideology, but it's there, and most members of that party subscribe to it. I don't expect you to be in "lock step", but I do expect a general idea of what's best for the region besides "staying groovy". Does the Anumian Union even have a single plan for the region? Can you even be said to have a single issue that you all agree upon besides the election of Anumia? You, HEM, can't even decide if you're for political parties or want them banished, how can we expect a party co-founded by you to have ideological consistency?And yes, parties are ideological. But it doesn't mean walking in lockstep nor does it mean consensus on every political issue. Look at the United States Democratic Party, there are members who would be just as ideologically bound to the GOP. Does that make the party obsolete or less real? No. It means that there is a spectrum of views, and like all parties, power is the first priority.
Is it?"Exist" is a relative term.You realize that the NCP existed over a year before Falconias joined, and continues to exist four months after his departure, yeah?An ideology isn't one person or one candidate, and we've seen that cults of personality (a la Falconias) aren't durable when that person leaves. If they truly had a thick ideology and shared vision for the region, they'd hold together.
the Rhinoceros Party's basic credo, their so-called primal promise, was "a promise to keep none of our promises."
The party claimed to be the spiritual descendants of Cacareco, a Brazilian rhinoceros who was elected member of São Paulo's city council in 1958, and listed Cornelius the First, a rhinoceros from the Granby Zoo, east of Montreal, as its leader.
Bryan Gold of the Rhinoceros Party described the party platform as two feet high and made of wood. "My platform is the one I'm standing on."
No, if you did that it'd be you and those who agree with the stances that you set out, which is what a political party is.For the record, I have my own personal plans, that I have given some or all of to several Union members, and even one or two non-Union members, but I want to see what the Union wants before publishing Union policy.
I could post my own plans as Union plans, but then it truly would be about me and nothing else, would it not?
Enshrined in law, right there, is the ultimate argument for political parties being inherently ideological.an organisation made up of citizens with similar political ideologies, whose members work together to achieve their political goals.
Everyone wants that. Your entire post proves exactly what I'm saying. You can't have an ideology, therefore you can't have a clear-cut difference between political parties. Our parties mean nothing more than social structures who see which one can get most votes. If every party's ideology is to make Europeia better, then why not just have one party called the Europeian Progress Party, and we can all agree on one thing? Instead, we have 3 parties preaching the same thing, and that is nothing. When they do try and post a platform, it really means nothing, because there are no issues you disagree with any other political party about!Political Parties in Nationstates are originally and foremost based around like minded individuals pursuing a common goal. In this case, the common goal is the progression and preservation of Europeia.